It Says Libby’s Libby’s Libby’s on the Label Label Label

If there is one silver lining to the dark cloud of the Trump fiasco, it is the public exposure of what Liberals truly are: mean-spirited, vindictive, hypocritical whiny brats.

The nation-wide temper-tantrum has been all over the news, from celebrity meltdowns [CLICK HERE], the angry protests and riots [CLICK HERE and HERE], and my personal favorite—the butt-hurt sexual deviants [CLICK HERE].

No, I am not a liberal. But I am not a conservative. I am neither an independent, a greenie, a socialist, nor an anarchist. I do not define myself by artificial paradigms created by political groups or institutions.

What I am is a Noahide. I go by Noahide Law. I do not fit my Torah viewpoint to accommodate preconceived political party paradigms (although I have been guilty of excessive alliteration at times.)

It is as clear as the nose on Jimmy Durante’s face that the vast majority of Noahides (or pseudo-Noahides such as the gerrings) do not have a clue as to what the Noahide Laws are. This can be observed by how these Noahides approach politics, particularly the presidential election last week.

One thing I noticed on social media was the overwhelming support for Trump among the Noahide community. There are many reasons for this. One is that so many Noahides came out of Evangelical Christianity, which is politically conservative by nature (conservatives generally are looked at as supporting religion.) Another reason is that many of the rabbis have been vocal in their support for Trump. Here is why: [CLICK HERE].

Donald Trump supports Israel. That is all well and good. I support Israel also. The Tanach, on the other hand, says Do not rely on nobles, nor on a human being who holds no salvation. For Noahides who focus on faith, emunah, this seems to present a problem. And where in the Noahide Code does it say that a Noahide must support the secular state of Israel? And even if Trump does support Israel, what good will it do if he wages economic war against the poor, the orphan and the widow of our society? Do you really think Hashem is going to let slide that we inflict economic hardship on our needy as long as our top elected official waves an Israeli flag? I have written often about the need for the rabbis to quit meddling in the political affairs of sovereign Noahide states.

Here is the problem. No political party in the USA adheres to the Noahide Law. Yes, the conservatives are opposed to abortion and hedonism. This is good. But they are also for cutting social programs for the poor while offering tax cuts to the wealthy. They are opposed to environmental controls because it cuts into corporate profits. This is clearly against the Noahide Code (protecting the environment falls under the Limb of the Living law.)

Liberals support programs to help the poor, and to protect the environment. This is good. Liberals also support abortion “rights” and same-sex marriages. This is clearly wrong. The other political parties have the same problem. Some things follow the Noahide Law, some things they stand for do not. And so it goes.

Getting back to the Liberals, though, we come to the main point. Because the Liberals have made it part of their agenda to support the “rights” of the sexually deviant, they have allied themselves with a group that not just opposes Torah, but hates it with a passion [CLICK HERE]. Because the Liberals have incorporated the hedonist’s agenda into their own agenda, it has had a detrimental effect on their view of Israel. It was no accident that the Liberal’s view of Israel changed as they embraced the cause of the sexually deviant. The sexually deviance movement hates Israel for what they represent: ultimate morality. They have been painting the picture of those who believe in ultimate morality as being intolerant. But in the past nine days, they have shown that they are no more tolerant than those they disparage. This has been obvious to me for many years. Now it is obvious to everyone.

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6 thoughts on “It Says Libby’s Libby’s Libby’s on the Label Label Label

  1. Hrvatski Noahid says:

    Individual Gentiles can fulfill the obligation to help the poor and needy. We do not need liberal government programs to do this. Tax cuts for the wealthy create investment incentives. These investments create jobs for the poor. And no environmental protection justifies the sexual sins of liberals.

    • Your comment is the perfect example of what I am talking about; you use secular political dogma to determine Noahide halakha instead of the opposite, using Noahide halakha to determine political and legal structure.
      “Individual Gentiles can fulfill the obligation to help the poor and needy. We do not need liberal government programs to do this.”
      The Torah sees things differently than you do. Besides our individual obligation (leaving the corners of the field to the poor, charity, etc.) there is a commandment (Devarim 14:28–29, 26:12) to give the second tithe every third and sixth year of the Schemita cycle to the poor. And, “according to the Sifri, if one had not been able to distribute it oneself, it had to be deposited in an official civic storehouse for the poor” (Hirsch). May I repeat: an official civic storehouse.
      This is not a “liberal government program.” This is Torah.

      “Tax cuts for the wealthy create investment incentives. These investments create jobs for the poor.”
      This is nothing but supply-side nonsense. Trickle-down economics does nothing of the kind; the massive tax cuts for the rich have, for the past 35 years, have created the greatest disparity of wealth since the 1920s. “Tax cuts for the wealthy” have only produced a much wealthier top 1% and have devastated the poor and working class.

      “And no environmental protection justifies the sexual sins of liberals.”
      I fail to see any connection in this red herring. Protecting the environment falls under the mitzvah of Limb of the Living; the prohibition of illicit sex is a different matter altogether.

      Again, your problem is that you look at the Noahide Law as merely a code of personal conduct, and you do not seem to understand that there is a societal dimension to the Noahide Code.

  2. Hrvatski Noahid says:

    The Divine Code says that Gentiles are obligated to help the poor and needy as a community *or* an individual (p 73, topic 9).

    Torah Law forbids coveting another person’s money and belongings. Yes, the wealthy are persons as well. And Torah allows disparity of wealth. Why do you care if others have more money?

    I meant that liberal sexual sins outweigh their concern for the environment. Torah Law has extremely strict prohibitions regarding sexual sins. I doubt the environment is as important.

    I have my own Torah sources. Your problem is that you refuse to respect sources which disagree with yours.

  3. “The Divine Code says that Gentiles are obligated to help the poor and needy as a community *or* an individual”
    Weiner also says things such as, “It is also prohibited for a Jew to teach Torah to Gentiles in the canonized Hebrew or Aramaic text,” “It is permitted for a Gentile to offer sacrifices, meaning to build an altar and offer upon it a kosher animal or bird which he owns as a sacrifice,” and “It is prohibited to engage in debates about matters of faith with deviant believers…It is also prohibited to listen to their heresies or argue with them at all about the true faith, because in general their thoughts are still bound up with idol worship or atheism, respectively.” There are a lot of things that Weiner says that either are not part of the Noahide Code, or else are part of disputed halakha and interpretation (Rambam vs Ramban.) Weiner has zero halakhic authority over Noahides. As I have pointed out, we have BOTH individual and community obligations.

    “Torah Law forbids coveting another person’s money and belongings.”
    Which is why the rich coveting the money and belongings of the poor is such a grievous offence.

    “Yes, the wealthy are persons as well. And Torah allows disparity of wealth.”
    There is nothing wrong with being wealthy. It is what you do with the wealth that matters, whether you use the wealth to help others less fortunate or hoard it to purchase luxuries for yourself. When you have a society that glorifies avarice and increases poverty, then something is clearly wrong.

    “Why do you care if others have more money?”
    I care when we have a legal system and government whose “official civic storehouse” is to be used for the wealthy, and not the poor, the orphan and the widow. The top 0.1% of the wealthy in this country pay no taxes, as evidenced by our President-elect’s smirking statement “Because I’m smart” when asked why he paid no taxes. Our legal system is set up where the wealthy and multinational corporations do not have to pay taxes.

    “I meant that liberal sexual sins outweigh their concern for the environment. Torah Law has extremely strict prohibitions regarding sexual sins. I doubt the environment is as important.”
    Who are you to decide how Hashem ranks the severity and importance of mitzvot? Environmental damage can affect the health and well-being of a great number of humans and animals. One person—the CEO of a coal company, the head of the EPA, the President—can make decisions that can cause much greater harm and loss of life than two people in an illicit relationship.

    “I have my own Torah sources. Your problem is that you refuse to respect sources which disagree with yours.”
    We both have the same problem: your Torah sources. Your sources deal with Judaism, not Noahide Law.

  4. Hrvatski Noahid says:

    I respect your Torah learning and your sources. It is your personal charm I find hard to respect. Your views on Rav Weiner and his Divine Code amaze me. “Some topics apply to both Jews and Gentiles, but this book only comes to teach the Noahide Code.” (the Divine Code by Rabbi Moshe Weiner, Ask Noah International, 2011, p 26)

    I translate business terminology. I have been working with businessmen my whole life. And I know that taxes are one of the main reasons why wealthy businessmen refuse to invest. Tax revenue goes to government bureaucrats more so than to the poor and needy.

    The Torah sources I learned from imply that sexual sins are more severe in the eyes of Hashem than environmental damage. But you already made clear what you think of my sources. We live in a wicked world. It saddens me that you can have so much disrespect for pious Torah scholars.

    • I’m not here to be charming. The rabbis such as Weiner are misleading Noahides, teaching Judaism in lieu of Noahide Law. Just as the laws of Levites and Cohens are different from the rest of Israel, Judaism and Noahide Law are two very different things, even if they come from the same source. What the rabbis are peddling is religion, and Noahide Law is not about religion. I don’t care how “pious” they are; the rabbis who are running the Noahide movement are taking it down the wrong path, teaching the tenets of Judaism instead of Noahide Law. What they are doing is not only wrong, but a violation of halakha (Bava Metzia 90b).

      As far as the myth that rich people create jobs and that taxes are the excuse, well…
      http://www.businessinsider.com/rich-people-create-jobs-2013-11

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